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When Your Grown Child Violates Your Values or Walks Away from Faith

Common Parent Question
“How should Christian parents respond when an adult child walks away from faith or makes heartbreaking choices?”
Principle 6 ('You Can't Want It More Than They Want It'): avoiding the 'one-topic parent' trap, practicing tough love without hostility, and grieving necessary losses.

1. Core Principles from Dr. Jim Burns’ HomeWord Library

📖 Doing Life with Your Adult Children (Jim Burns) · When Your Grown Child Violates Your Values — Doing Life with Your Adult Children · Get the book ↗
“Good thing Easter is a season and not just a day, because some resurrections take time.” I was sitting outside on a bench at a conference center in Connecticut getting ready to speak to a large group of parents when the phone call came in. I knew my friend was going to call, but I had no idea why. He asked if I had time. “Only fifteen minutes,” I said. “Yesterday, I received a call from my twenty-one-year-old daughter,” he said. “Before she said anything else, she asked me if I was sitting down. I knew that wasn’t a good sign. There was a long, awkward pause and then she said, ‘Dad, I’m going to get married. I know you won’t approve, but I’m going to do it anyway. Mom approves.’ ” My friend and his wife had been divorced for several years after his wife left him for another woman. “Then she said, ‘And Dad, the person is forty-two years old.’ “I tried to keep my cool,” he said, “so I responded, ‘Wow, that’s quite an age difference. How long have you known him?’ Which is when I learned why she’d asked if I was sitting down. She said, ‘I’ve only known her for two months, but I know it’s love.’ ” At this point in our conversation, he lost his composure and started to cry. Then he added, “My daughter invited me to her wedding, which is two weeks from now. She told me the service would be a bit ‘nontraditional’ and that I wouldn’t be walking her down the aisle.” I knew the dad well enough to know he was heartbroken on several levels. The situation brought back the deep pain and sense of failure from his marriage, plus his values were different from his daughter’s. I looked at my watch and realized I had only ten minutes before I had to end the conversation. “Does your daughter know you love her, and does she know how you feel about her decision?” Realizing this was not a counseling session but a friend asking for my input, I said, “If she were my daughter, I would attend the wedding. I would no doubt be heartbroken, confused, and dismayed, but my presence at her wedding would convey my love without giving my approval.”
📖 Doing Life with Your Adult Children (Jim Burns) · When Your Grown Child Violates Your Values — Doing Life with Your Adult Children · Get the book ↗
Near the end of our brief conversation, I added, “I’m going to guess that there will be a crash in the relationship. Getting married after knowing anyone for only two months is seldom a good idea, not to mention that you said she broke up with her boyfriend just two months ago. The odds point toward divorce.” We discussed the fact that when she crashed, she would need someone to turn to for help. I encouraged him not to break the relationship over her poor decision but to let her know he was there for her if she ever needed help. Sure enough, a few months after the wedding, she called her dad and said she was leaving the relationship and asked if she could move back home. She wanted to get her life straightened out. After a couple of years, she’s now in a much better situation. She got the counseling help she needed and started attending her father’s church, where she found a loving and accepting community. She experienced some bumps and bruises, but I believe her dad’s decision to show up at the wedding and to maintain their relationship was a significant factor in her redemptive story.
📖 Doing Life with Your Adult Children (Jim Burns) · When Your Grown Child Violates Your Values — EVEN GOOD PARENTS HAVE CHILDREN WHO MAKE POOR CHOICES · Get the book ↗
When an adult child violates our values, makes poor choices, or gets in deep trouble, we often question our parenting abilities. Our doubts shout at us: • Would this have happened if I had been more spiritual, or if we had prayed more as a family? The what-ifs can paralyze our souls and wreak havoc on our confidence as parents. One of the greatest heartbreaks for a parent is watching a child waste his or her life, potential, or opportunities with poor choices. One woman said to me, “I’ve been through a lot of pain in my life, but I’ve never felt heartbreak like I have through the poor choices of my kids.” A friend of mine whose son struggled with drug and sex addictions put it this way: “It feels like a death. Or at least the death of a dream. No doubt about it, ‘big children bring on bigger problems.’ ” When your young- adult kids have serious adult- sized problems, the kind that can derail a healthy and productive life, your heart may break, but your child’s choices don’t have to break you. Your child’s regrettable decisions do not make you a bad parent. Even good parents have children who make poor choices. It may be too late for prevention, but it’s never too late for redemption. Miracles do happen. Sometimes they take the form of a rapid change, but most times they are a slow climb toward a better life. Author C. S. Lewis wrote, “Hardship often prepares an ordinary person for an extraordinary destiny.” Your child’s failures may well become the foundation for a whole new life. This is the power of redemption. There is perhaps no more powerful story of redemption than Jesus’ story about a prodigal or lost son. It’s a tragedy that ends with a victory. I’m guessing you already know the story, but every parent of a child who’s made regrettable choices needs to be reminded of it. A father had two sons, and the younger son left home and lived a life contrary to the values of his family. He traveled to a distant country and squandered all his money in what Jesus described as “wild living” (Luke 15:13). When a famine hit, the son ended up with the only job he could find, which was feeding pigs, the kind of job no good Jewish boy would ever take. Finally, he came to his senses and set out for home.
📖 Doing Life with Your Adult Children (Jim Burns) · When Your Grown Child Violates Your Values — EVEN GOOD PARENTS HAVE CHILDREN WHO MAKE POOR CHOICES · Get the book ↗
The boy’s father had no doubt been brokenhearted when his son left. He likely experienced deep pain and worry over his lost son daily. Jesus said that the father saw his son “while he was still a long way off” (Luke 15:20). It’s a detail that makes it clear the father had been watching and waiting, hopeful every day for the moment his son would return. When the son arrived, the father welcomed him and threw a party. Although the story is called the parable of the prodigal son, it has been said that it’s more accurate to say it’s the story of a loving father. I sometimes imagine there was a conversation before the son left home that went something like this: Son: “I’m leaving home and there really is nothing you can do about it.” Father: “I don’t want you to leave. I think you are making a very bad mistake with lifelong consequences. Nevertheless, you are an adult and I can’t forbid you to leave. But know this: our home will always be open to you.” The father displayed great love and wisdom in his response. “I think you are making a bad decision and a poor choice with potentially terrible consequences. But I’m your father and my home is always open to you.” What some parents don’t understand is that you can still show love as your children suffer the natural outcome of their actions. The son eventually did come home and his father warmly and lavishly welcomed him, but that didn’t mean everything went back to the way it was. Most likely, there were still consequences. I wonder if after the welcome-home party there was another conversation that went something like this: Father: “Son, I am so glad you are home. I have prayed for this day to arrive. You are welcome to stay, but you need to know that there are expectations and boundaries.” Son: “Dad, I am so sorry. You were right. I will do my best to live according to the way I should have been living all along. I am humbled by your loving grace.” Although Jesus doesn’t spell out how the younger son responded, I like to imagine he was willing to change and to abide by the father’s lovingly set boundaries. We can learn so much about how to handle a prodigal child from this amazing parable. This father was loving yet firm. He offered grace but still expected his son to live by the family’s values. My guess is that when most children return home after straying, there is much to celebrate. But don’t expect it all to be easy. All of us are complicated and some of those same kids come back with addictions or habits of the heart that need work. Always be aware that some miracles take time.

2. Timestamped Video Conversations from the HomeWord Archive

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When Your Adult Child Walks Away From Faith | Dr. Jim Burns

Dr. Jim Burns · 11:38–14:00 · Themes: Adult Children & Role Shift
Watch at 11:38–14:00 on YouTube ↗
[11:38] Respect, and for goodness sakes, don't say everything you think in a text. So let me add one other thing. You're not defined by your adult child's choices. I love, love this quote by a friend of mine. Her name is Jill Savage. And this is what she said about when your kids rebel and violate values. If they decide to build a shack... [12:00] on the foundation you laid for them. Your job is to pray they'll eventually tear down the shack and build a beautiful castle that you helped lay as a foundation for them." That's a beautiful quote, and it's a great reminder. Hey, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. This is launch week for the book When Your Adult Child Strays, Trading Heartache for Hope. And you know what? [12:22] There is a lot of hope that's going to come in the next part of this podcast. Check out all the info on the book in the podcast notes. You can also go to Homeward.com. If you buy the book, do me a huge favor and give me a review on Amazon and other platforms. The sooner we get those reviews up. [12:40] the better and the easier. My book, Doing Life with Your Adult Child, I wrote it seven years ago, but today it's the number one bestseller on Amazon in a couple of topics. And that is because of people like you telling their friends and even using the course in small groups. And we think the same thing is going to happen with When Your Adult Child Strays, Trading Heartache for Hope. And when we come back, we're going to talk about some practical insights and talk about adult children who stray from faith. We'll be right back. I'm Jim Burns. [13:08] Parenting doesn't stop when your child turns 18. If anything, it gets harder and more complicated. When the relationship breaks down, when they walk away from the faith you raised them in, and every conversation feels like a fight, you need more than advice. You need hope. When Your Adult Child Strays, Trading Heartache for Hope is the book I wish every parent had. Find it anywhere books are sold. [13:36] Welcome back. I'm Jim Burns. Today's launch week as we talk about when your adult child strays, trading heartache from hope. And, you know, I'm kind of intense. I think that last section, I was kind of intense, but I feel the intensity and the hurt and the pain that so many parents of adult children have, and I want to help you. And so when you move from heartache to hope, it does take discipline. And in many ways for us as parents, remember I told you?
▶️ Timestamped Clip · 16:12–18:18

Parenting Adult Children: How to Navigate the Changing Relationship

Dr. Jim Burns · 16:12–18:18 · Themes: Anxiety, Depression & Mental Health, Parenting Teens & Technology
Watch at 16:12–18:18 on YouTube ↗
[16:12] and the parents aren't letting you connect with the grandkids for church or things like that. I totally get that. But in many ways, there's some good things coming out of it, and especially people who live with these principles. So let me give you some, under this principle number five, you can't want it more than they want it. Let me give you some good advice. Number one is you've got to offer them tough love. Now, please do not mix tough love with being mean. [16:42] or getting angry and getting frustrated always at them. No. Tough love means you allow the consequences of their poor choices to happen. They're adults. There's nothing you can do about that. A woman asked me one time, you know, what do I do with this? And I said, does she know what you believe? She was living with her boyfriend. Does she know what you believe? Yes. Does she know how you feel? Yes. Then expand the relationship because she's not going to stay with this guy, odds are saying. And if it... [17:11] crashes, then you need to be safe. That doesn't mean you have to agree. It means you can be in a relationship, loving, God-honoring relationship with them and still expand the relationship. You can't be a one-topic parent is what I'm saying. Because too many times when our heart is breaking because a kid is violating a value, and it could be drugs, it could be that they're living with somebody, it could be that they've walked away from faith, and the list goes on. But when that's the case, we become one-topic parents. And so we pour our energy and our time and our effort just into that, when in fact we've got to expand the relationship because they still like to go get coffee. They still want to talk about snowboarding or surfing or whatever it might be, see. [17:49] And so it's so key for us, and yet it's hard. I remember when our daughter Becca was going through some tough times, Azusa Pacific University, a Christian school. And I would go up most Tuesdays. Kathy teaches a Bible study on Tuesday. And so I would go up on Tuesdays and have dinner with her, and I would always have something in my pocket. I'm always prepared. And it was like a long list of things I wanted to talk to her about. And there were days we had that conversation and days we didn't. Days I listened to her talk about boys and life and school and complain about this or whatever. But what I realized was that once
▶️ Timestamped Clip · 17:37–19:52

My Child No Longer Believes in God… What Do I Do?

Dr. Jim Burns · 17:37–19:52 · Themes: Prodigals & Violating Values, Marriage Intimacy & Unity, Anxiety, Depression & Mental Health, Parenting Teens & Technology
Watch at 17:37–19:52 on YouTube ↗
[17:37] bright kid, fun-loving, and according to them, had a lot of questions and doubts about faith, and they were totally worried about him. So I met him for coffee. I think they thought I was going to try to straighten him out. And I said, hey, I understand you're dealing with some questions and doubts about your faith. I actually think that's probably a really good thing. He looked at me like I had just told him, you know, I lived on the planet Mars. I mean, he was like, what? Because his parents weren't giving him that message. I said, so what's up? And he mentioned he was struggling with faith in God. [18:04] And I paused and answered, well, you know, that's some of the same questions after he told me all of his stuff that I have. And I've been thinking about that for a long time. I believe unexpressed doubt is one of the most powerful destroyers of our faith. And so sometimes just asking questions, mouthing our doubts, saying our doubts out loud in a place where there's grace and acceptance and we can kind of dialogue, that's a good thing. It's not all bad. So don't suppress those questions. Doubters are welcome here. [18:33] Four is refuse to blame yourself. I mean, really good parents have kids who walk from God. They have to live with their own choices. And even then, what we've got to do is practice what we call tough love. Tough love is when you allow the consequences of some of their poor choices to live out, and you're showing now empathy and care and love. So again, you're becoming the safe person even when they've made these mistakes rather than alienating each other because you're now all down on them. [19:02] It's a hard, fine line to walk, but you can love and show compassion and empathy even when you don't agree with them, and they know you don't agree with them. And then fifthly is continue to influence them. You can have your heart breaking and still be their greatest support, like I said. Be there. Don't enable them. But being present in their life, it's really the only way that matters where it'll help them to come back. I now call that the power of being there. [19:30] You know, younger children view your presence as a sign of caring and connectedness. Well, guess what? Older kids do, too. So make sure you stay connected through compassion. Make sure you stay connected through empathy and kindness, whether or not they're following in your journey. Now, that's a big task. Those all five of those things aren't easy. I didn't say it'd be easy.
▶️ Timestamped Clip · 8:39–10:50

Dr. John Townsend Boundaries with Teens When to Say Yes, How to Say No

Dr. Jim Burns · 8:39–10:50 · Themes: Adult Children & Role Shift, Boundaries & Estrangement, Anxiety, Depression & Mental Health, Parenting Teens & Technology
Watch at 8:39–10:50 on YouTube ↗
[8:39] spouse here tonight? So good. Tell us about the years after this perfect teen years, teenship. Was she ever moody or was she ever? And then you just say, look, ma'am, you didn't happen very much in your teen years, but I wonder if it happened in your 20s and 30s and 40s. There's no free lunch here. No, that's right. And I think we see a lot of that, even sometimes within Christian homes where the kids were more compliant during the teen years. Maybe they're really involved in a youth group and whatnot. And then they get to the young emerging [9:08] adult stage, and that's when they're doing experimental behavior and making the changes. And doesn't every parent want to say, if they're going to go through it in their lifetime, I'd like for them to do it when I'm home, and I can monitor, and I can be part of the redemptive process and the training process, as opposed to yours at a school 2,000 miles away. And, you know, that happened for us, I would say, with our three girls. All of them went through some of the stage a little later. Christy said a line, [9:33] talking about spirituality, she said, I had to disown my parents' faith, this is in college, to own my own faith. She wrote it in a school newspaper. She was an editor and had a column. And I looked at that and went, both as somebody who knows about adolescence going, that's really healthy. Very healthy. And at the same time, I was like, ah, what? You didn't go to church every Sunday? Because she told us she did. You... [9:56] didn't pay any attention, she was going to a Christian school, to the Christian chapels, you actually left your faith? And you know, come to find out, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. We now go to the same church and we do life together, so to speak, with our family and her family. But that was a scary time for a parent. So when the child says, I don't believe this anymore, or they start violating your values, what do you do as a parent? [10:22] That's kind of the whole boundaries concept. You know, I have a four stage model of when that happens. Is this a good time to run through that? You know what? Let's run through it. It's a great model. Go ahead, bring it right now. It's sort of the centerpiece for what I think about it. So they say, I'm going to come in late or I don't even tell you I'm going to come in late. I'm coming in late. I'm starting to act out. I'm starting to drink or whatever. I'm starting to smoke weed and I'm not doing all the stuff that we're afraid of that we should be concerned about. Well.
▶️ Timestamped Clip · 0:00–1:09

Kids Leave Faith? Keep Your Relationship Strong! #shorts

Dr. Jim Burns · 0:00–1:09 · Themes: Christian Family & Faith Formation
Watch at 0:00–1:09 on YouTube ↗
[0:00] Somebody will say, I'm heartbroken because my kids have deconstructed in their faith, so they don't believe, and they don't want us to bring them to church. They don't want us to talk about Jesus to the grandkids. What do you say to that? You must hear that all the time, just like I do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's amazing how often what we want is we want them to do something. Yeah. And I think the most important... [0:26] thing that we can do because we can't change them. God can, but we can't. We may want to, but we can't. So we have to look at ourselves and say, so what can we change about us? Could we lean into the relationship more so that we don't lose that? We won't have influence in their lives if we don't have a relationship with them. And so can we lean into the relationship even if it doesn't involve the spiritual component? Yeah. I'm really glad you said that. I was talking with a woman who [0:56] who disagreed with you and me on that, because I agree with you. And she said, well, I just took them to church, and I pray with them, and I read them Bible stories. And I said, how'd that work out for you? And she goes, well, we're estranged now, and they've cut me out of any relationship. Exactly.

3. Questions for Personal Reflection, Spouses & Small Groups

  1. Principle 6: You Can’t Want It
  2. More Than They Want It
  3. We tend to think that good parents have children who become responsible adults. How do you respond to the statement that “even good parents have children who make poor choices”? When it comes to how young adult children lead their lives, do you believe that parents have a lot of influence, little influence, or somewhere in between?
  4. Share the reasons for your response.
  5. How would you describe “tough love” in a positive, helpful way? Share any examples of how you have shown tough love to your child. What kept your actions from being simply mean or punishing?